Last week, internet personality Tiffany Fong casually posted a passing thought on X. “Wild that dudes just wake up with raging boners,” she opined.

Not long afterward, she was met with a surprising response from Bryan Johnson, the wealthy entrepreneur famous for trying to biohack his way out of aging and ultimately “conquer death.” “Tiffany you have raging boners too,” Johnson wrote. “Women experience clitoral tumescence during REM sleep, often referred to as the ‘morning bean.’”

In the comments under Johnson’s confident assertion, however, Fong and other women appeared puzzled. Do women actually have their own version of morning wood from REM sleep, or is Johnson totally mistaken/clueless?

For her part, Carol Queen, an award-winning author who holds a PhD in sexology and is currently a staff sexologist at Good Vibes, thinks that universalizing the experience is a mistake. “As with almost everything, not all women, men, whatever-the-identity experience the same phenomena,” she explains. “That’s part of the confusion of the internet’s ‘sexpert class,’ many of whom aren’t trained in sexology or something similar.”

That said, Queen confirms that experiencing an engorged clitoris is a real thing. But it doesn’t happen out of nowhere, and you don’t just wake up with it unless you had a sex dream or are otherwise feeling aroused. As for the REM part of the tweet — sure, that’s the time when you’re most likely to be actively dreaming, so you may experience a sexy dream or sleep orgasm then, but don’t expect a “morning bean” every time you enter REM sleep.

And to state the obvious, it’s true that some women are horny in the morning — and the otherwise “anytime-while-aroused bean” can appear as a “morning bean.”

After all, the clitoris becomes engorged the same way a penis does because they’re so similar. “We keep thinking that men and women are opposites in this society, but we all have both testosterone and estrogen, just in different amounts; and clitoris and penis develops from the same tissue; outer labia and scrotum from the same; ‘G-spot’ and prostate from the same, etc.,” Queen tells me.

In a recent thread on Reddit about the “morning bean,” some women agreed that it’s a real experience they’ve had, but others dunked on the concept itself. As Queen alluded to, there is a massive industry of so-called health and wellness experts who exploit how terribly versed we are as a society when it comes to female anatomy or how women experience sexual pleasure — and women have become attuned to this. Both a cutesy euphemistic moniker (“morning bean”) and blanket universalization (morning wood for women) certainly send up red flags.

“Defo not all women, mine lays there with 537,207 alarms going off first,” joked a user in another thread on the topic.

Ultimately, morning boner may be a common occurrence for many men, but a morning bean is about as rare as a fact-check on internet “sexperts.”